[isp-clec] Re: Newbie Question.

[Fred Goldstein <fgoldstein@...]

At 5/24/2003 02:32 PM -0400, Michael Bathrick wrote:
> OK, stupid question from a total newbie so - please - no flames.  I'm in
> Verizon East territory (128 LATA) and need to run a DS3 from point A to
> point B 20 miles apart.  When I say total, this will be my first order.
>
> I've already looked at the tariff - MA-17 - but am not sure of all the
> nuances involved.
I assume you're a CLEC -- MA-17 is for services to CLECs, UNEs.  ISPs and 
others have to deal with retail tariffs.

> What will I need to order to do this? and what can I expect to pay for
> this?  Are there any cheaper options?
Note that VZ recently filed a new set of UNE rates, which are not yet 
official, but which are supposed to be retroactive until last summer.  In 
most cases the rates are substantially higher than Tariff 17 rates now in 
effect.  This is before the DTE, which, while theoretically there to 
protect the public, typically functions as VZ's outside law 
firm.  Litigation is possible if not likely; the DTE tries to temper VZ's 
wording in order to protect them from losing in federal court, while 
maximizing VZ revenue.

If the two DS3 terminals are not VZ wire centers, then you need DS3 loops 
and DS3 interoffice facility mileage (IOF).  The IOF has a fixed and 
mileage component.  However, you can't simply join them together -- in most 
cases, the only way to join DS3 IOF to a loop is via collocation, which is 
quite costly. There's an exception for EELs, but those are subject to usage 
restrictions, and I'm not sure offhand if DS3 can be an EEL.  You can join 
the IOF to a loop at one end, if it's a CLEC location, by designating that 
loop as an Entrance Facility.  The far end is the tough one.

Given that both the state rates and the FCC's UNE rules are in flux (final 
rules pending and not announced), it's not save to be too specific.


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